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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
They absolutely do have a leg to stand on. Military operations are not carried out in isolation, they are subject to international/humanitarian law.
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This is a total non-sequitur. What does international law have to do with current military operations on the ground and the actions of Israel right now? You may say that Israel should be held to that standard but it tells us nothing about their reasons behind their decisions.
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Do we? You said we can’t trust Israelis and Palestinians, and we can’t trust any organization, nor can we trust international politicians, and we’re obviously not going to trust Hamas, so we can only trust… who? I’m happy to trust all of the sources above that confirmed these things happened and the context in which they happened. Are you?
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Are you serious? The only thing that both parties of the conflict have both confirmed is the terror attack on Israel. It should be obvious that this actually happened. And generally when opposite sides of the party both confirm something it has a better chance of being true.
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So, we’ll know as soon as it’s done? Can we make condemn the killing of hundreds of children, the displacement of hundreds of thousands, and the destruction of thousands of properties (including civilian properties)? Can we condemn shutting off water, electricity, fuel, food, etc that disproportionately impacts civilians? Genuinely curious. Because the stories have been confirmed we “know” these things to be true, we know these things constitute violations… but we can’t judge them?
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You can judge them if you want, I don't care. It's super easy to criticize everything that people do. But what is your solution? Israel should just sit back and say, "hey Hamas, no biggie, just keep doing what you are doing"? They have to get rid of Hamas. And yes it's an huge humanitarian catastrophe. It's a war and war is brutal. I'm not sure what your expectation is.
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How do you know they’re doing that if you aren’t trusting anyone who is telling us they are doing that?
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That Hamas is using hospitals as cover? I don't. But then what you're saying is that Israel is targeting purely civilian targets without any other reason than killing civilians. Which wouldn't serve any purpose if the goal is to kill Hamas. Also by evacuating north Gaza it's something they have tried not to do, or at least minimize casualties. So my assumption is that they aren't doing it just for kicks.