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Originally Posted by Saqe
They are not military organizations. I'm sure they know a lot about humanitarian problems but they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the military operations on the ground. This should be blatantly clear.
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They absolutely do have a leg to stand on. Military operations are not carried out in isolation, they are subject to international/humanitarian law.
I’m finding it difficult to figure out your position here. No one, including organizations directly involved with people on the ground, can judge a military operation or military attacks aside from the military itself and the government behind that military? Yeesh, sounds… not great.
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Well, that is history. We know what happened and Hamas itself has posted videos that confirm the story. But what we do not know is how the Israelis are operating, what their intel on the ground is or what their plan is.
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Do we? You said we can’t trust Israelis and Palestinians, and we can’t trust any organization, nor can we trust international politicians, and we’re obviously not going to trust Hamas, so we can only trust… who? I’m happy to trust all of the sources above that confirmed these things happened and the context in which they happened. Are you?
So, we’ll know as soon as it’s done? Can we make condemn the killing of hundreds of children, the displacement of hundreds of thousands, and the destruction of thousands of properties (including civilian properties)? Can we condemn shutting off water, electricity, fuel, food, etc that disproportionately impacts civilians? Genuinely curious. Because the stories have been confirmed we “know” these things to be true, we know these things constitute violations… but we can’t judge them?
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Ok, so how would you eradicate a terrorist group if it's using civilians as a shield and civilian infrastructure as cover? Like a hospital. I have no idea, I'm not a military expert. My opinion is that it's going to be messy no matter what. There are no good solutions.
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How do you know they’re doing that if you aren’t trusting anyone who is telling us they are doing that?
This question has been answered multiple times and in better ways than I can by multiple people. My opinion is that we should actually listen to what the non-biased organizations involved are actually saying and the alarm bells they’re ringing, and not write it all off in hopes that the military will always do the right thing.