[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I saw a few things in this "Debate" that I found quite interesting from both sides.

Firstly, why the hell would these guys want to debate with the people from the rational response squad. Why not try to have this dabate with people who actually have some background in evolution, or any science for that matter. Of course you're going to get a debate that spirals into personal attacks when you are debating with people who's best response is "I'd rather burn in hell, then worship a megalomaniacle god in heaven". Stick to the subject people, opinion shouldn't come into a "Scientific debate" and in that sense Kirk and the banana lovin yahoo next to him got what they wanted, to portray the athiests as angry and bitter.

Secondly, Kirk and the BLY used the analogy of the painting as evidence of the painter, and so this can logically be extended to God creating the universe. Okay fine, let's say I accept your arguement as correct. For this to be a "Scientific" arguement as you claim it to be, then it must apply in all cases. Therefore if we can conclude that God exists by this principle, then we can also conclude that someone created God. Since God exists, this is clearly evidence that God had a creator, and that means that God's creator had a creator and so on. But then who created the Creator's Creator's Creator? When your premis breaks down that easily there is something wrong with it.

Finally, I laughed my ass off at the bullfrog, and the crocoduck. Those were gold. Nothing like completely misinterpreting one piece of a theory, and then comming up with an absurd picture to prove the theory wrong. Come on guys, if you really want to have a "Scientific" debate, at least show some intrest in keeping it scientific.

I actually would have rather seen this the god side being debated by actual Theologists instead of a couple of evangalists, because they would have debated from the fact that there are only two truths when it comes to religeous studies 1. God Exists 2. I am not him.