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Old 10-14-2023, 02:58 PM   #1489
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The world has a terrorist organization in Hamas. Do you think this organization should be eliminated? If so, do you think it is possible to eliminate Hamas without civilian casualties?

Should countries other than Israel join in and help eliminate Hamas?

I’m not baiting here. Unfortunately, there are no time machines. We can’t go back 80 years, 2000 years, heck we can’t even go back a week before the music festival started.

The line in the sand of time is now. Should Hamas be eliminated, or maybe should Israel try and negotiate with Hamas? How should Israel and other countries deal with this? I don’t expect you to have all the answers, just curious what your opinion is.
Hamas should absolutely be eliminated and eliminated as soon as possible. I do not think it’s possible to eliminate them without civilian casualties. And I think other countries should help. I don’t think there’s really any negotiating with them.

However, I don’t believe that gives them the freedom to pursue that goal however they want and disregard however many civilians lives they feel is necessary to accomplish it.

Collective punishment, un-achievable evacuation orders, punishing and endangering civilians while blaming a terrorist organization for making you punish those civilians because they won’t give into your demands… I think it’s all ridiculous. And that’s just post-Oct 7.

There are approx. 30,000 members of Hamas in Gaza. Israel’s attacks on Gaza have killed a few hundred, along with over 1000 civilians and over 700 children. Even if it was 1-for-1, is 30,000 dead children worth that? People are rightfully grief-stricken over the children killed by Hamas, but are we OK with Israel killing tens of thousands of them? What’s the limit? A few hundred dead Israeli children is a tragedy, tens of thousands of dead Palestinian children would just be the cost of war?

Honestly, I don’t even know why people keep asking these questions. Saying “hey, Palestinian civilians matter just as much” or suggesting Israel should follow laws or be held to a higher standard than terrorists has so far been met with accusations of racism, anti-semitism, propaganda, being too virtuous, death wishes, hating Israel, being a nazi-sympathizer, etc. It’s ridiculous, because these are sentiments shared by the United Nations, Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, and high-profile Israeli and Jewish commentators and politicians across the world.
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