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Old 10-13-2023, 10:49 AM   #1275
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Hey, if you can get Hamas to make peace with Israel, be my guest. If you can't, then I guess have fun being in a war with your neighbours forever.

If I put myself in the mind of a Palestinian for a second, though, I might see your points as suuuuuuper biased. Like, are you seriously telling two million people in Gaza to 'get over it' and accept that Israel calls the shots on how you and everyone you'll ever know and love lives this one life we get on earth. And to 'get over' that your life will totally suck because you live in a giant crappy prison?

Yeah, until you can empathize with what the creation of modern Israel has meant for the other people in the immediate area I don't see how you'll ever get to a solution. Note, I don't think there is a solution that will work for the area. This whole project wasn't built on a stable foundation so it can't work.

As for 73% of Israelis being born there...yeah I have a ton of sympathy for them. They, too, are pawns (or descendents of pawns) that were placed there like in a game of risk where their chance to prosper is always in jeopardy and in need of external support. I understand it's their home. I wouldn't want to leave if I were them, either.
I think there should be a discussion as to why the conditions in Gaza deteriorated to this level. A big part of it is having Hamas run the place, and Hamas using most of the funds and materials sent to Gaza for military purposes.

A prosperous Gaza would only benefit Israel. The constant attempts to explode Israeli busses made it into a prison. It was open in the early 2000s and in the 90s.
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