the problem with looking back 2000 years or 80 years is it's both pointless and morally irrelevant, I guess I can see why a Palestinian might be more emotionally invested in their Great Grandfathers land than a Jew in King Davids but neither of them lived on the land, both came by that land via conquest, the Greeks and Turks have just as good a claim frankly, the sad truth is all countries are created and held by force, Israel isnt going anywhere and they aren't going to give up anything as they know full well it wouldn't actually bring them peace and security.
If Palestinians want a better life now they will have to accept defeat and loss, ask for mercy from Israel and the world and try and get as many of their kids educated and out of the region as possible, essentially adopt the posture of Canadian natives, I fully understand why they wont do this but the alternative is things just get worse, there is no pathway for a Palestine that Palestinians actually want, there will be no substantial land given back in our lifetime and there will never be a right of return, just an endless cycle of violence and poverty for Palestinians and hardening right wing hatred in Israel.
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