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Old 10-11-2023, 07:30 PM   #898
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Originally Posted by Beninho View Post
This isn’t a religious war for most Jews and Israelis. What the hell are you on about. This is our ethnic homeland, which we were expelled resulting in 2000 years of persecution. You may think this is a religious battle because you read up on this conflict once every few years when it is in the news, but to Jews this is about the survival of our people and always has been. We don’t convert, we are not competing with any religion for global domination. In an ideal world we would have loved to live side by side with peaceful neighbours but that has never been the case. Israel was born out of war because the Islamic world could not stand for a Jewish state. The Palestinians have had many opportunities for their own state even after waging wars but have continuously shot themselves in the foot.
Help me understand your position here. Answer some questions for me. Were you born in the Middle East? Have you traced your lineage all the way back to the Middle East? What provenance do you have to lay claim to anything? I suspect it is only the fact that you are a Jew and your upbringing has told you these stories, and these stories are based on what is taught in the Torah. Unless you were born there or can trace your lineage back to a very specific place, what right do you or anyone not born in that region have to make claim to that land?

Isn't it time to let go of this "ethnic homeland" angle as it was something that is over two millennia old? Look at how much strife this thinking has caused. The land in question is also the "ethnic homeland" of the Palestinians. It would seem both are in the right and both are in the wrong. Shouldn't modern ownership rights (actual documented ownership) matter here and let the rest go?
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