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Old 10-11-2023, 01:35 PM   #803
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon View Post
In truth the only real solution at this point is the absolute and total defeat, along with catastrophic loss of life and complete removal of the population of one side or the other, either Israel ceases to exist or Gaza.
That's not going to happen.

I also have serious doubts that Israel is capable of defeating Hamas to be quite honest. Whether it's this war, or every other war against Hamas or Hezbollah, that has always been Israel's stated goal. Then they walk it back, say they achieved their objective a few weeks later and move on.

The short term solution? There is none for the next few weeks. Once both sides have killed enough of their enemies, the medium term solution is for israel to end the siege in Gaza and hand over the occupation to a neutral party like UAE, Turkey or Jordan. End all settlement activity, full stop. Dismantle some of the smaller settlements and exchange land in israel in exchange for the larger settlements.

I'm sure Turkey or UAE wouldn't want to occupy the westbank and gaza for long so the understanding is that they, along with the international community, help build palestine into a viable, independent country. Yes, when all is said and done, that includes full sovereignty over their entire territory and airspace and full military force. An arab country with a peace treaty with israel does not pose a security risk to Israel. This notion that a militarized palestine can't be trusted is bogus.

In the longer term, I would think that a friendly palestine and israel will become integrated economically, with open borders and opportunities for all citizens on both sides of the borders. At that point, maybe there could be an agreement that would allow palestinians to reside in Israel, close to their ancestral lands and for israelis in the West Bank, close to their holy sites.
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