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Old 10-09-2023, 12:02 AM   #262
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Thanks AFC, and I appreciate the discussion. Without a doubt, I agree with you, it was very messy and people do lose wars/lives/property. Pictures from Ukraine are horrible and terrifying, entire towns in rubble.

Not all Palestinians lost everything, some certainly did. Much of what we see is spillover from Jordan but they abandoned them and it seems to be in Israel's hands. The entire sequence of events suck. Israeli people were/are terrified of what took place yesterday, going back since independence. What we know as ISIS is what Israel defended the borders for, at least that image of militants.

For sure land was lost, not all, not the whole thing, just there was a massive war, there was no way Israel was letting people back in who abandoned them. Note that not all Palestinians left, those that stayed within Israel are citizens.

Never in my life have I seen such anger in Israel, for years and years they hoped for a glimmer of peace from their neighbors, instead they got Hamas.
I have spent hours today trying to calm down and deescalate one of my old foster kids whos of Jewish decent, in his 30's now and living in Ottawa, I can't blame him but he has mental health issues and firebombing some random shawarma cafe in Canada seemed an inappropriate response, fortunately I calmed him down.
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