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Old 10-08-2023, 10:56 PM   #259
Nage Waza
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon View Post
None of that matters though, in practice there was a land that those Palestinian families lived on for centuries, maybe a thousand years, they lived there under the Ottomans, they lived there under the Mamelukes and the British, a fair chunk of them were no doubt Jewish or Samaritan originally and converted for a quiet life so long ago the family has forgotten, they converted to Islam when the Umayyads or the abbasids took over, they lost everything in '49 and found themselves in Gaza as refugees, you can argue that 'Palestine' wasn't stolen but their farm was, they used to have a little land and now they dont, it wasnt even their fault they lost it, Egypt and Jordan started a war, now I would guess the average Palestinian was rooting for the Arab legion to win but they weren't part of it, they just lost everything because of it
Thanks AFC, and I appreciate the discussion. Without a doubt, I agree with you, it was very messy and people do lose wars/lives/property. Pictures from Ukraine are horrible and terrifying, entire towns in rubble.

Not all Palestinians lost everything, some certainly did. Much of what we see is spillover from Jordan but they abandoned them and it seems to be in Israel's hands. The entire sequence of events suck. Israeli people were/are terrified of what took place yesterday, going back since independence. What we know as ISIS is what Israel defended the borders for, at least that image of militants.

For sure land was lost, not all, not the whole thing, just there was a massive war, there was no way Israel was letting people back in who abandoned them. Note that not all Palestinians left, those that stayed within Israel are citizens.

Never in my life have I seen such anger in Israel, for years and years they hoped for a glimmer of peace from their neighbors, instead they got Hamas.
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