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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Honest question, since we do it for planes and tanks already:
Why can't we just add on to the British order of ships (or american), or just straight up purchase one of our own off their lines? Is this Irving getting the extra $4 billion somehow?
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Because we insist on the Canadianization of almost everything.
And that's fine to me in certain situations, but when we're talking about what should be a somewhat competent design for a general purpose frigate, we should just be able to buy off of the shelf.
Also Irving kind of lied here. They stated that they had shipyard capability to build these ships. It was in the contract from my understanding that Irving would pay the costs for any upgrades to their own yards. Now it turns out that the Feds are sinking money into these ship yards.
I'm actually terrified of what's going to happen with the F-35's I mean we know they're going to be built stateside, but Canadian companies and the government are going to have their hands all over facilities upgrades and maintenance, and I'm sure the same bad actors are going to bloat the costs.
Its the running joke that in a defense contract a hammer will cost a thousand dollars by the time all of the contracters get their way. It happens in Canada way to much.
Look at the boondoggle of the Iltis jeeps. Bombardier was selling them to Canada for $32,000 each while selling the same jeeps to the Belgiums for 20,000 dollars per jeep. The fact that we bought the Iltis for 32,000 a jeep is a joke in itself. But a lot of Bombardier execs got rich off of Canada defense contracts.
Going back to Canada's future ships, even the stupidly bloated costs aside. the UK government has been sharply critical of the Type 26 program and its costs. The Australian Government has said that the vessels will be slower and have less range then they were originally told and there are concerns about the safety of the vessel.