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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, that is certainly odd. Again, as consumers we should be wanting if demanding outstanding content from both franchises.
Similarly there is a cross-over between Star Trek and Star Wars fans, some are deadlocked but I'd wager most fans of either tend to like both.
In the case of DC/MCU that one has been a pitched battle. I like characters from both sides and I'd say that I think DC has some most of the better and more renowned characters, Marvel just did more with theirs.
So for instance, I dont think there is a single DC movie I would happily sit down and re-watch..."I really enjoyed that!" No. I'd be like Malcolm McDowell in 'A Clockwork Orange.'
Whereas I'd happily sit down and re-watch any Marvel film. They just have that quality to them.
Similarly, I'm an 'Old School' Star Trek Fan, you want to sit down and watch Wrath of Khan or, hell, even Search for Spock? Giddy up!
I'm also an 'Old School' Star Wars fan....you want to sit down and watch The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi? Sure, I just have to go to....the....bathroom....yes!
*Sounds of Window breaking, car starting and Locke escaping*
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This is speaking in very very general terms, because I think on an individual bases you could pick this argument apart, but I've always found this view confusing.
And, I grew up in the 90s when the marvel tv cartoons were really at the top of the superhero market, so it might skew my view. I don't know that Batman - Superman - Wonder Woman are any more Iconic than Spiderman - Wolverine - Hulk. If you are anywhere under ~45, I can't imagine a time where one of those trios would have dominated the other completely in the cultural zeitgeist. And for me Marvel has always had a much much deeper bench, as a kid I could name a dozen Xmen, the members of the Fantastic 4, 5 or 6 Avengers, and Deadpool/Blade/The Punisher.... But even now, without having appeared in a movie I've seen in the past 10 years I would have had a tough time digging past the 6 main members of the Justice league for DC.
Fundamentally I think DCs characters are just flatter and more archetypal, where Marvel has always leaned harder into the flawed nature of their heroes. Leading to a difference in where the points of tension are in their stories. Superman and Batman would never lose a head-head fight vs their specific rouges, so the tension is around weather of not they will arrive on time to save the day. When they are losing a fight it is a departure from their rouges gallery or the nature of the character as they have been presented to us, it's a story waiting for us to return to the normal world where Superman flies really fast to catch a falling louis. Where Marvel also formulaic will normally show their hero losing round one of the fight, and framing the tension around if they can re-group and fight back, when they get an easy win it is a departure, usually to setup a fall from hubristic heights.
For me I think the later is just a more compelling story telling device and give you more degrees of latitude to work with, and it would have been truly remarkable if DC could have capture cultural attention they way the Infinity Saga did, the depth of story telling just isn't there.