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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
To me I think this is a possible scenario.
There are actually just people that are socially awkward, that have no social intelligence, and don't understand boundaries.
I had a boss once who was a probably a bit on the spectrum, and very socially awkward, and he would do some things most people would really cringe at. But in the end he actually was a guy who was actually really caring for this team, was curious, and it wasn't malicious but that doesn't mean it wasn't really really awkward.
One time he started going through a co-workers glove box without asking as they were driving to an off-site event. She was terrified and it was completely offside - but he actually wasn't doing it maliciously in anyway - he was just that socially awkward that he wouldn't have thought it was unacceptable.
Doesn't mean that it's acceptable and that you have to live with that behavior, but also doesn't mean that it was intentionally malicious.
However the people who didn't like him - would always think he was doing this with some type of malicious intent, or that he was a terrible human in some way.
That situation kind of reminds me of this in a way. None of Jack Han (no longer an employee of Babcock), Gaudreau, and Jenner thought it was intentionally malicious. But it doesn't mean that it's not awkward, or that somebody wouldn't take it as malicious or feel that it crossed a line.
However at this point I think there might be part of the story that we are not aware o, because if the threat of him being fired is actually out there (according to Dreger) then I don't think he could be fired for cause just by asking to look at the photos. There would have to be another layer to it that he somehow crossed a line with either how he asked, or a comment he made I think.
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Yeah, good points. I was kinda think of it as in a person doing it purposefully while knowing it was offside... But absolutely there are people who suffer from ASD and just aren't aware of these things.
(not directed at anyone specific, just a genral point: for the record, I was suggesting the malicious actors be fired off into space - not ASD sufferers)
Also now that I think about it, there are stories (quotes?) about Babcock being socially awkward, no?
I mean if that's the case, then there's more room for working it out. Like maybe it needs to be explained to players that he might say/do/ask something from time to time that's not cool - and if it happens it's ok to say no. On the flipside, it would also need to be explained to him that players are allowed to say no if they're not comfortable (obv not talking about lineup changes, day to day hockey stuff, etc).
But then again, he's in a poisition of authority... who's to say that a player getting benched after one screw up 3 weeks from now isn't because he said no to showing pictures today?