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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
Sex and gender are not the same thing.
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Correct. Where did I say they were?
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
Transitioning your gender does not require one to transition their sex.
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As I said, it does not
require changing sex characteristics, but that does fall within gender transition. It is not an entirely different thing as you describe it. You should research gender transition if you're going to keep using the term.
Transitioning is the process of living according to your gender identity. From how you dress, to how you'd like to be addressed, to hormone therapy and other medical procedures.
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
Further, what I said was in the context of the idea that not having behaviors ascribed to gender buckets means there is not really any difference between the two genders anymore and wanted to point out that obviously transitioning sex would be different because there are absolutely material changes that one would undergo.
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OK, but you're only half getting it here. If gender ceases to exist and therefore there would be no gender norms or gender buckets or no difference between genders and the only definable difference would be in sex, why would anyone "transition sex"?
Further, there are already people whose gender identity follows neither male or female gender stereotypes, do not identify as transgender, do not express gender in any binary fashion, and undergo no substantive "gender transition."
Like, it's all hunky dory to suggest that if we just eliminated gender there would be no need for "gender transition" or any labels regarding gender. But we haven't. And allowing and giving words to a multitude of gender identities and gender expressions so that people stop saying things like "the two genders" is a step toward what you're describing, not a reinforcement of gender norms like Cliff is suggesting.
It's absurd to think that trying to blow the concept of "two genders" out of the water is actually reinforcing gender. Come on.