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Old 08-26-2023, 04:15 PM   #134
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I agree with you.

In North American society which was build on individualism the church was one of the few things that created a responsibility to the social contract. The west never had a honou and shame to your family type thing outside of the church. Or the communist ideals of China. I’m not saying religion is necessary, I’m saying the loss of religion in a relatively independent leaning society will reduce already low levels of collectivism and community if it isn’t replaced by something.
Yeah, I figured that was your point!

Also a small revision by me to your post - it's from the Confucian beliefs in China that drives what you see with respect to social order there.
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