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Old 08-24-2023, 05:26 PM   #12420
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I think the way he has been able to clean up Post-Coup leaves him in a much better state than he was pre-coup. That doesn’t mean he played well up to this point. It’s just he handled the point from the coup attempt to now successfully.



His invasion failing led him to have to rely on Wagner to maintain positions which increased Prigohzons power to the point his information people could be openly critical of the MoD. Putin was in a position that he could not just kill Prigozin to eliminate the threat pre-coup. His actions to stop Wagner and absorb it caused the coup.



Essentially for some reason Wagner stopped on the March to Moscow. Was it lack of support, schrewd negotiating, failure to get Nukes, something else, but Putin was able to survive the coup attempt and then able to dismantle Wagner.



One could probably argue that because defending your position take less troops than attacking he was able to make the Wagner forces redundant and therefore took away Prighozins power and that alone allowed Putin to be successful.
I disagree.

Only one commander was able to take a major city: Prigozhin

Only one General was able to make a successful maneuver (pulling out of Kherson and building defensible positions): Surovokin


One is dead and one is detained. The elites see this. Yes it instills fear, but where there's fear there's no loyalty. This is a dangerous time for Putin and everyone can see his pants were pulled down in from of the world. His Africa strategy is now in tatters, the economy is continuing to head down to ruin, and drones are hitting Moscow through their "Air Defense".


Things aren't going to be better for Putin, but I think he had to do it to stay in power

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