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Old 08-24-2023, 05:35 PM   #11520
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog View Post
Anyone arguing in good faith with any sense about them knows that a complete and immediate shut down of all these things without a transition to viable alternatives will cause more problems than it will solve.
Of course it will.
But consider: hottest summer ever. More wildfires than ever. Immediate, existential crisis, according to all available science.

So why do we permit things such as travel for vacations, ect? Permit the ability to buy cheap goods that we all love dear from countries with horrible human rights records, with toxic materials, that arrive on heavy tankers that produce more carbon dioxide in one trip than thousands of individuals could ever hope to produce in their lifetimes?

Peacemeal platitudes and lower disposable income by way of carbon taxes ain't doing ####. But we could do many things to severely limit the damage without cutting our nose off to spite our face.

But we aren't. The better mousetrap isn't here, and while many bemoan our current state of calamity the belly aching would reach a fever pitch if you couldn't buy a new 60" POS TV from Asia.

Nuclear is the answer, but for the zealots it's a non starter as well. Guess we are ####ed.
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