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Old 08-16-2023, 12:57 PM   #768
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Originally Posted by saillias View Post
My hot take has always been the good year was also bad. They got shelled every game and were the worst team on the ice most nights. Their metrics were near the bottom of the league. They got very lucky with shooting percentages and goaltending. And then faced a very weak round 1 opponent.

It's been crazy to me how Hartley has maintained this sort of aura like he was good here. No he was really really bad. Worse than Gulutzan or Ward. not even referring to how he dealt with people. But by the numbers as a coach he is one of the worst of the salary cap era.
I don't think he was worse than Gulutzan as far as player development goes. At least Hartley had Monahan, Gaudreau, and Bennett on track. Gulutzan basically flatlined their development or in the case of Bennett sidetracked his development. He basically wasted important growth years for the organization by developing nobody and making some players regress.

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