[Daradon]

So everyone that owns a gun, owns it to kill people? Because you just said guns were made to kill people, nothing else.

There is no middle ground....

I agree there is middle ground, I agree there are a lots of people who use them responsibily, but to say that access to guns ISN'T the number one case of gun related violence in the states is ridculous. Especially when the numbers differ by 6-20 times that of any other first world nation.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a stupid question?

Arms is a subjective term, but widely accepted as meaning guns. The US government has a problem with Iran owned weapons grade plutonium, but it will be alright for their citizens to own it?

But it's ok for the U.S government to own it? Even though they are the only nation on the planet to use it in a hostile manner. That's the message. The U.S. is obviously the most massive armed nation in the world, perhaps it makes sense that their populace is too.

The U.S. has been using their military more and more lately, perhaps it makes sense the populace is using their guns too.

And interesting side note many have debated in the media the last few weeks.

However, if 'bear arms' is a subjective term (which it is) why is the cut off assault rifles? I don't get it. If it's subjective why isn't the cut off hunting rifles? Why isn't it somewhere. This argument is lacking becuase it IS subjective. The cut off could easily go either way. From a hunting bow, to weapons grade plutonium.

Until someone writes into the constiution what it specifically means (and there is evidence to suggest that it didn't mean handguns) then it's all moot. But right now, it's seems proven that the current system is beyond the responsibility of most individuals. The rule needs to be looked at, and at the very least clarified.

Saying guns are not used to defend oneself is ignorant and stupid. What the hell does the military do with their guns than? Why does the police force all issue handguns? To kill people, or protect themselves? Is not the job of the police form to 'serve and protect' or whatever the hell they call it these days?

But they are licenced officers of the peace. The rest of the people are not. And they prove this everyday by how they use them. Again, difference of responsibility. (and use)

EDIT: Gotta figure out how to use the quote function better for multiple quotes...