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Azure · 07-29-2023, 08:08 AM

Looking back, I think a lot of things were true.

I saw families get torn apart because they didn't make sure their grandparents or elderly parents were protected. Had 3 older friends die as a result, all brothers, all in a month. Sure they all had pre-existing conditions, severe diabetic, heart problems, etc.....but man to see an extended family deal with that so quickly, sad.

Then I never actually got sick till right when things started getting back to normal, and then it was the worst sickness of my life. Basically a week + of torture.

Did vaccinations help? Sure? Would it have helped more if we would have focused less on thinking every single person needed to be vaccinated and then allowing them to attend mass events thinking oh they'll be protected, versus just you know stopping mass events from occurring? There were times when hockey rinks had 20k people in them, but we couldn't go eat in a restaurant, and schools were closed despite a statistically extremely low risk to kids, but hey that concert needed to happen. There is a reason we see more studies now talking about the stupidity of a lot of those decisions.

So while there were a lot of stupid decisions made, those decisions were being made by governments that we at any other time would think of as being incompetent when it comes to anything else, so who knows why we all thought they would handle things correctly with COVID. Much of the public health messaging was terrible. Look at surface infection rates. It was proven early on that it wasn't a risk at all, but man I can't imagine how many government cronies got rich from stuff like that where the public was clearly being duped into thinking COVID was a risk in a way where it actually wasn't.

And then we expected the public to make better decisions when public health couldn't get their #### together.

I also think there was a lot of exploitation, fraud, abuse, etc going on. Governments throwing billions at PPE? Hah, taxpayers got shafted on that. Go read studies on how effective 'masks' were that you bought on Amazon. And yet someone was raking it in selling it as something that it wasn't. Vaccines, which taxpayers paid for, that were peddled as being extremely effective, but not effective enough to help 3rd world countries. Surely couldn't forgo a hundreds of billions in profits to help the poor people could we. But of course we all KNEW that the its a money making enterprise, and yet we choose to ignore how blatantly we were being screwed over on that side. Still pisses me off reading how much profit Pfizer and their corrupt industry partners were raking in, and how much did the government spend developing everything and got nothing out of it? I guess we should go look at who holds Pfizer stock. Surely wouldn't be anyone in Congress, would it? No, of course not.

So yeah, end of day lots of dumb decisions made that I think looking back really created issues with what we knew very early. Who was most at risk, and how to protect them. The horror stories of care homes, nursing homes, etc....just terrible what happened to those people. When the military has to go in and is disgusted with what they find, you know we were doing something really wrong.

Curious once all is said and done, what was the vaccination rate for people over 55 in Canada? Say double shot.

07-29-2023, 08:08 AM	#96
Azure Had an idea! Join Date: Oct 2005 Exp:	Looking back, I think a lot of things were true. I saw families get torn apart because they didn't make sure their grandparents or elderly parents were protected. Had 3 older friends die as a result, all brothers, all in a month. Sure they all had pre-existing conditions, severe diabetic, heart problems, etc.....but man to see an extended family deal with that so quickly, sad. Then I never actually got sick till right when things started getting back to normal, and then it was the worst sickness of my life. Basically a week + of torture. Did vaccinations help? Sure? Would it have helped more if we would have focused less on thinking every single person needed to be vaccinated and then allowing them to attend mass events thinking oh they'll be protected, versus just you know stopping mass events from occurring? There were times when hockey rinks had 20k people in them, but we couldn't go eat in a restaurant, and schools were closed despite a statistically extremely low risk to kids, but hey that concert needed to happen. There is a reason we see more studies now talking about the stupidity of a lot of those decisions. So while there were a lot of stupid decisions made, those decisions were being made by governments that we at any other time would think of as being incompetent when it comes to anything else, so who knows why we all thought they would handle things correctly with COVID. Much of the public health messaging was terrible. Look at surface infection rates. It was proven early on that it wasn't a risk at all, but man I can't imagine how many government cronies got rich from stuff like that where the public was clearly being duped into thinking COVID was a risk in a way where it actually wasn't. And then we expected the public to make better decisions when public health couldn't get their #### together. I also think there was a lot of exploitation, fraud, abuse, etc going on. Governments throwing billions at PPE? Hah, taxpayers got shafted on that. Go read studies on how effective 'masks' were that you bought on Amazon. And yet someone was raking it in selling it as something that it wasn't. Vaccines, which taxpayers paid for, that were peddled as being extremely effective, but not effective enough to help 3rd world countries. Surely couldn't forgo a hundreds of billions in profits to help the poor people could we. But of course we all KNEW that the its a money making enterprise, and yet we choose to ignore how blatantly we were being screwed over on that side. Still pisses me off reading how much profit Pfizer and their corrupt industry partners were raking in, and how much did the government spend developing everything and got nothing out of it? I guess we should go look at who holds Pfizer stock. Surely wouldn't be anyone in Congress, would it? No, of course not. So yeah, end of day lots of dumb decisions made that I think looking back really created issues with what we knew very early. Who was most at risk, and how to protect them. The horror stories of care homes, nursing homes, etc....just terrible what happened to those people. When the military has to go in and is disgusted with what they find, you know we were doing something really wrong. Curious once all is said and done, what was the vaccination rate for people over 55 in Canada? Say double shot.