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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Hey if you want to share a link and time stamp, sure. I’ll give a listen, why not

I’m not even particularly interested in defending Hartley, he’s well in the rear view mirror. That’s someone else’s narrative

I’m arguing the absurd simple statements that don’t really make sense in light of readily available information

Trash hire? That comes across as a pretty stupid oversimplification. It’s not black and white. He was brought in to blow up the country club and instill a culture change, involving work ethic. Did he do that? I think so. Was it a job that was going to make him universally popular, much less with the dead weight? Doubtful

He made big changes, got a team to overachieve (or play to their potential), won the Jack Adams, and gave people hanging on to the ####ing zombie corpse of 2004 hope. Even Stajan admitted he brought a lot of things the already f’d up team needed.

But people sagely nod in the echo chamber and basically say he’s full on ####. It’s typical of the polar mentality that is being ingrained in people these days. It’s pretty disappointing.

He sure left some road rash and burnt bridges, but he’s certainly not the single face of the decades of dysfunction.

And this all started with some unsubstantiated rumour of sage veteran players (and given his mandate, not Hartley’s automatic favourites) saying he was ruining one particular rookie who just had a promising season. Please

Good lord. For years the team was branded as coach killers. Stajan gets on the podcast, spells out how the team mutinied, and everybody is sagely nodding about the big bad coach.

Not a wee bit of irony there?

The more you wish to distill a complex and multi dimensional issue in to a single drive by quality statement, the poorer off you are

You are ruining a good old fashioned witch burning.