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Old 07-28-2023, 03:52 AM   #598
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Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
Hartley's demeanor and approach seems to have soured him everywhere. Rhett and Stajan agreed that, absent Feaster being involved, Bob would have never worked in the NHL again after Colorado.
Ok, let’s reset here

As much as they agreed there, Stajan did acknowledge, and Rhett agreed as well, that Hartley communicated well early on, defined roles, and taught and planned well

He also said that early, Hartley did a lot of things they needed

No doubt he wore out his welcome, as many coaches do

These are two pretty average players with respectable tenures, neither of which have moved into the professional coaching ranks

He also described the mechanics of the mutiny. The team had it out in the room and ultimately decided that the coach treated a chunk of the players differently than others

Could be a strategic downfall, but if you have managed a team of people, you would also know that some people get it and do what you ask, and some don’t.

He didn’t go in to the specifics of how he treated these guys differently

It’s got to be a challenge, to get a mixed bag of people to perform to the top of their abilities all at the same time. All coaches struggle with this.

I honestly get a kick out of the oversimplification and vilification that some posters have

And I am pretty confident that most likely zero (improbably few if any) of the posters here with strong opinions have tried to rally the top tier of professionals at their craft, mainly multimillionaires, as a cohesive unit, night in and night out, to compete at a level expected to exceed that of opponents each night also comprised of top of their class pros, with top coaches

Maybe trying to unite the top half of the team with a bit more carrot and motivate the less reliable with a bit more stick is what he found worked

And Stajan and Warrener are bubble guys between carrot and stick category and could take these things personally

Hartley did shake things up and instill a much needed work ethic after nearly a decade of country club. And clearly he has a shelf life

But a good set of ears should help you understand that it’s a bit more nuanced than many people like to say

You have two guys who were able to grind out good careers sagely agreeing that a guy who curries the favour of top players at the expense of their level, saying he would’ve never coached in the league again if not for Feaster, but then he did win the Jack Adams

These things aren’t that simple
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