[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by GGG

My insistence that someone other than the government that has lied about ETs for 90 years be required to verify if ETs exists is somehow unreasonable? That’s the standard of evidence that is required.

I didn't say anything about whether it was unreasonable just that it was unlikely because peer review doesn't exist in the form you're suggesting. Not many interests allow a third party to come in and review their research and development, especially something that is compartmentalized. I really don't care what you think would be the standard of evidence, it just isn't going to happen. If verification is required it will be the government that invites the party to the private table, not an open table for anyone to review.

It may never happen but to believe conclusively without it would be ridiculous. If you want to that is your choice but to chastise someone for wanting real evidence before believing extraordinary claims is absurd. It’s a very convenient position to be able to state evidence doesn’t exist because it would never be released therefore the absence of 3rd party reviewed evidence which is stated to exist is not an issue.

What third party would you suggest be acceptable? You seem to ignore a ton of real evidence because it doesn't meet your high standard, so what is that standard. Who is this authoritative third party?

Grusch’s testimony was such garbage and feels like someone trying to avoid purjury. Essentially he says I have no first hand information on anything related to UAPs but he has talked to people about it.

Sounded like someone who knows he's discussing highly classified information and has been informed by his handlers that he needs to be cognizant of that fact. Hence him willing to provide details in a SCIF outside of session. That is the appropriate way to discuss such information, not in a public session.

Anyway highly disappointing

I don't disagree but it was exceptionally predictable. They were not going to roll out ET and they were not going to arrive in a captured tic-tac. This was going to be a public admission of on-going programs, sort of like what Snowden did, except with proper procedural protection as a whistleblower. They weren't going to trot anything tangible out. This is the start. Some of Grush's private disclosures may generate other witnesses that will step up and provide the access needed. But nothing big was going to come of this session. Anyone who thought this was going to be the big one just doesn't understand how government works.