[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by GGG

It should be relatively easy to verify that injuries / unexplained deaths occurred to these specific people at the specific times of Gruschs testimony.

You would hope. But this is the government that has made people and backgrounds disappear. Verification of information is more difficult now than ever before because of how easy it is to eliminate digital records and how disinformation plays a huge roll in hiding those facts.

A real basic for instance, a middling but well-connected chief of police in my fair state rolled his car in a possible drunk driving incident. He not only managed to make the State Trooper report disappear but also the ambulance report and 16 minutes of dispatch tape mysteriously go blank. Making information go away is pretty easy especially when there is no one there to provide oversight and have the data backed up. And don't try and tell me about logging and paper trails. If they have the power to eliminate the record they have the power to delete all logs/paper trail.

Same with proving aliens exist now. Just produce the materials or biologics. It’s kind of surprising that records or data from these if they exist hasnt accompanied the whistle blower testimony.

Because it's so easy to walk about of a facility with a crashed vehicle or a dead body. Do you know how long it took Snowden to hatch the plan to get the code out for the programs he dropped the dime on? And that was on a tiny microSD card that was easily concealable. Working in these TS-CI programs and locations means nothing in, nothing out. No cellphones. No small cameras. Nothing. You go through many levels of security prior to entry and they will find anything you try to bring in that could be used to disclose information.

Originally Posted by GGG

These hearings are mostly a self indulgent mastabatory exercises by senators and house members for their own electoral purposes.

Agreed. Nothing will come from this because of the way the industrial military complex works. Compartmentalization makes it impossible to make this evidence surface.

Though I was more referring back to the hypothetical discussion on what eveidence would be required for you to believe aliens exist. The bar is very clear now what is required. Peer review of materials and DNA.

You and your peer review. News flash: Peer review is not the process you think it is. Peer review is rarely undertaken when it comes to government, military, or private programs. The information is tightly controlled and regulated meaning you require clearance to gain access. They just don't hand that out to anyone. It is why the same group of people are involved in many of these programs. They are cleared but still remain compartmentalized so they know just enough. If there is any review done to confirm beliefs or findings it will be done by another person who already has the clearance and access. The circle is kept tight so data doesn't leak.

This is why I doubt we'll ever see such evidence produced, unless something happens in a populated area where there are thousands of witnesses and they can save the vehicle or bodies before a recovery team has a chance to arrive and scoop things up. But then again, thousands of people witnessed and reported an aerial event across almost two states and that event was quickly swept under the rug. Never discount the power of the government, the mass media, and the stigma of being called a nutjob.