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Old 07-23-2023, 03:06 PM   #12075
CliffFletcher
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That would be the case if the US gave everything they could until production was ramped up, but it took months for each item to finally be approved. Months of "we don't want to escalate" followed by finally approving in a slow piecemeal fashion. It took 4 months for the US to finally say ok to HIMARS. Tanks were a no until UK just said we'll do it. The US could've given all that stuff from the start as they still haven't replaced what they gave earlier. Both Europe and the US did not start ramping up artillery production until a few months ago. F-16s were "absolutely not" until last week.

Yes they need to have enough materiel for readiness, but that hasn't prevented them from what they have given. Why was it all approved so slowly?
Because this is a major geopolitical and diplomatic crisis. The fears of escalation are absolutely valid. And you just can’t hand over dozens of tanks and ‘have at er’. Modern armaments are hi-tech weapons systems that require 6+ months of dedicated training. Then there are legal restrictions - some European countries had to change their laws to allow arms sales to combatants at war.

The military support the West has been providing Ukraine is extraordinary - unprecedented since WW2 in its scope and speed.

So what’s your theory for why support hasn’t ramped up as quickly as you’d like? What’s the hidden agenda?
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