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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Hard disagree. There has been plenty of Flames' teams over the past few decades where you could argue they had little success but were fun to watch. Sounds to me like the Iggy era post ' 06. I mean sure, those teams were fun to watch. Fun players and great offence. Cool to see some players get trophy nominations. But most Flames' fans would argue those times were actually a waste of those player's primes and that those teams underachieved greatly and were overall extremely disappointing. Watching your team score a ton of goals gets washed out when you get bumped in round 1...again. At some point, winning rounds makes your team successful.
I view a franchise as the LVK as extremely successful. Multiple division titles, multiple rounds won, multiple WCF appearances, multiple finals' appearances. Not really any stand out super star, but a team that knows how to play as a unit. Just gunning for a team that's fun to watch, and that's all, sets the bar quite low. I'm tired of this franchise setting the bar low. If that's the case, might as well have a run 'n' gun team and score as many goals as possible and pray your goalie stands on it's head.
Winning is entertaining. If we can somewhat the model the LVK franchise since their inception, I would greatly consider that as successful.
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I think people really miss how screwed we got in our last rebuild in retrospect. You could have had this team if Fox didn't no show and Monahan and Ferland didn't breakdown at extremely young ages.
All these guys would be in their prime at the same time. Gaudreau and Tkachuk as your star forwards. Hamilton and Fox as Norris level defenseman. Potentially Andersson and Brodie as a 2nd paid. Bennett and Ferland as your 20 goal gritty players, Mangiapane and Dube as secondary scoring. Backlund past his prime but as the shut down centre
You'd still need a goalie and to fill up the bottom of the roster. But they basically drafted/traded for the team all the pro-rebuilders want but are now in this spot while all these guys who remained healthy are still in their primes.
Lots of people have in their mind:
1) Trade everyone away
2) Draft well
3) Become elite and have a decade on the top
But in reality - drafting well is a crapshoot and even if you do nail it - you have to get lucky and have the guys all want to be here and stay healthy.
So in conclusion - success for me as a fan - have a team that has meaningful games that I want to watch. If I was the GM or owner - I'd have different definitions of success.