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Old 07-18-2023, 02:57 PM   #5528
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Originally Posted by Matata View Post
Outside of Ledgers performance, I thought the Nolan films were mediocre. Scarecrow was pretty good too.

There was a clear trend of superhero movies getting better leading up to Infinity War and a clear trend of them getting worse after.
I don't agree with that characterization of the patter either. The MCU opened with a bang...then was mediocre, Avengers was good, but then things got bad again. But then they got good after Winter Soldier/GotG and stayed pretty good until Infinity War.

A lot of it was just luck though. It wasn't as though it was great planning that led to movies like GotG being good, they just had a string of great movies. We kind of forget about Age of Ultron and GotG2 were peppered in that, otherwise great, run.

I'd argue that most of the films there were pretty independent, they just managed to his lightning in a bottle with so many great ones in the same time period. They then went in with the same characters, writers, etc.. for sequels on those same franchises, and all of the follow up sequels were inferior.

Basically, it wasn't a pattern of the MCU getting better and better. They stumbled all over the place, then had a mostly great run right before Infinity War, and then were never able to reproduce that run, despite nothing fundamentally changing.

And no, the Nolan films were not just mediocre. Begins is a great movie in itself. TDK is one of the best action movies ever made. You're setting the bar pretty high for superhero movies if an Academy Award for best supporting actor, amazing visuals, and amazing action pieces get labeled as "mediocre".
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