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Old 07-17-2023, 06:45 PM   #1341
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Originally Posted by Derek Sutton View Post
Yes. And this does not apply to “any player”. We billeted WHL players at that time and the kids we had were great. In fact most of the team was great, a few others were simply tolerated, one was an entitled nut job. 15 years is not that long ago. The hazing for these kids consisted of dressing the rookies up as girls and parading them through the mall.

It would be hard to put any group of 20, 17-20 year olds together and not get issues with behaviour, treatment of women and substance abuse. But to label them all as perverts is simply lazy and wrong. Like every year, literally 1000’s of teenage boys leave home is pursuit of higher opportunities in hockey, the incidents rates are in the 1-5% range.
I couldn't agree more with the last paragraph and the overly broad brush that people are using to label people.

But let's be honest (and I'm sure you realize this). You don't know what those kids were up to when you weren't around and you don't know to what extent other types of hazing occurred. Any parent of teenagers is well aware that a certain amount of trust (and naivete frankly) is part of the equation. And that "great" kids can make horrible decisions given the right set of circumstances.

I don't know what the incident rates are for junior hockey but placing groups of teenagers on a pedestal is conducive to creating an environment for trouble. IMO that incident rate is going to be worse than say a typical college setting where similarly aged kids have left home for the first time. And we know this kind of #### happens in college too.
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