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Old 07-13-2023, 02:30 PM   #11965
curves2000
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist View Post
I don't think so. Regardless of NATO membership Russia isn't going to pull out unless they have no choice. NATO membership isn't changing Russia's expansionist goals at all. There needs to be less wringing of hands about what Russia will do if x, y, or z. Do what Ukraine needs. Russia has zero cards to play

I agree but there appears still be cracks and fears about pissing off Russia, poking the bear so to speak.

That is why there has been hesitation to provide Ukraine with a lot more of the equipment, fighter jet's and more.

It's NATO kind of walking on egg shells in a lot of ways. We won't train pilots on F16's from a year ago, yet Ukraine has lost a lot of it's top pilots. They are now starting the process that will be 4-6 months.

We needed a huge NATO wide effort to get them 100 of the best tanks, yet Ukraine is saying that need more than 300 as a starting point.

I just hope in the end it doesn't end up being a massive loss because we played the battle a little too conservatively.
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