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Old 07-13-2023, 10:59 AM   #2865
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Originally Posted by blankall View Post
Specifically, he wanted her to take down pictures that featured her rear end and not her actual sport.

Abuse and controlling behaviour certainly exists in degrees. I've yet to date someone that didn't try to change my behaviour. In fact, I'd argue that being in a monogamous relationship is by definition a form of control.

Does this mean Jonah Hill should be cancelled? No.

Does this make Jonah Hill look stupid? Absolutely. He dates a pro surfer and surf-model and then expects her to not do surf-modelly things. I do acknowledge that dating an A-list celebrity comes with its own set of rules, as their image is their business. However, her business was surf modelling.

Anyways, I'd file this incident far more under celebrity gossip than "High Profile Sexual Abuse".
The bolded above may not necessarily be "control", but it's definitely a compromise... I don't think we can start labelling compromises made in our relationships as control.

And this is kind of how I see it... I really can't be bothered to do a deep dive on their text exchange, but from what I saw, Hill stated his expectations for a relationship and ended with something along the lines of "if this doesn't work for you, cool, we can just be friends"...

Sure, she's a surfer and a model, so if his expectations for a relationship don't jive with her (professional) life, then maybe they just shouldn't be in a relationship... To me, it sounds like something someone in therapy would be encouraged to do - be honest, clear and upfront.

I'm not going to judge whether or not these are reasonable conditions to have a relationship with Hill (I understand his celebrity would make things different and probably even unrelatable for 99% of us), but I can say for 100% certainty that he was a heck of a lot more clear than any of my exes and, to be honest, about as clear as my (now) wife was early in our relationship... There was something that came up, she asked me to make a not insignificant change in my life, told me her reasons why it was important to her, and at the end of the day, I decided that she was more important to me than the thing she asked me to change.

I can't help but feel like we (especially men) are constantly bombarded with the messaging that we need to be more open and communicative in our relationships and be more clear about what we need/want/expect, rather than bottling it up. Here we have Hill doing just that, and it's being viewed as manipulative? I don't know...

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