Highly recommend bike shorts from Bn3th
https://www.bn3th.ca/collections/nor...liner-bibshort
I've only got a couple pairs of the shorts so far, but just ordered another and a bibs. I'm not sure the chamois is quite as good as some of my other bibs (but it's certainly not bad), but the frank and beans are 100x more comfortable, which is a fair tradeoff for at least 90% as good chamois comfort.