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Old 07-07-2023, 04:36 PM   #1300
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina View Post
If Bergeron isn't the best he's certainly in the top 5.
Off the top of my head Guy Carbonneau, Bob Gainey, Pavel Datsyuk come to mind
Always though Fedorov was under-rated too.
I think he's in that group no?
Oh Jere Lehtinen was damn good to.
I don't know how one breaks it down but Bergeron has to be in the conversation of best all time no?

I feel like this is a conversation on the extremes. If we are comparing Lindholm to Bergeron I don't think he measures up. But that's because that Bergeron bar is damn high.
this is hard once we go back too far- there is little doubt Bob Gainey had excellent reputation and his team had excellent results, but we just don't have the advanced stats to compare to guys now . there were other solid players in that era- his direct peer LW Craig Ramsay also comes to mind. interesting that alot of the guys with big defensive reputations in the 70s (Don Marcotte was another one) were wingers, the 'shut down winger' but I think probably the most preferred elite defensive Fs are going to be Cs.



I wonder how someone like Bobby Clarke would end up faring if we could apply modern metrics to them
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