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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I realize that there will inevitably be more of these events because they have 10 times as many people, but you have made the suggestion more than once that things are the same here and there, but they just have more people so the numbers are higher. It's not true.
I'm not saying they are a bunch of brutes, but there clearly is a difference. It is a more violent society.
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Yeah, I didn't write that very well. But anyway, its essentially the same society, inherently no more or less violent. The difference lies in the histories and ethnic makeups of individual states (and provinces). (I am not saying crimes are committed only by ethnic minorities, far from... what I am inferring is that a lot of crime is caused by the clash of ethnicites, including caucasians).
For example, why are Saskatchewan and Manitoba the provinces with the highest crime levels? To oversimplify, its the clash between caucasians and aboriginals. The places with the highest homocide rates in Canada are the Territories. Nunavut has a staggering 10.8/100k (over twice the American average), Yukon with 6.5/100k and NWT with a more normal 2.4/100k.
Another example, the homocide rate in Denver is 3.0/100k, Regina's is 5.0/100k, Winnipeg's is 4.9/100k, Abbotsford is 4.4/100k and Edmonton's is 3.4/100k (2004).
Why are Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver doing better comparatively? They take in a lot of immigrants, so that theory must be bunk, right?
Well, it is and it isn't. Like I said, its not like immgrants come here and decide to commit crime. Most of it is gang related with groups of different ethnicities, especially if there is an "Us vs. Them" mentality. In Canada, no one ethnic group is more maligned than the First Nations, and they have a disproportionate amount of criminal offenses. In the US, there are significant arguments that African Americans are still maligned by the caucasian majority, and again are a source of disproportionate crime. Americans also believe in having one society "we are all Americans", and that likely causes strife in itself.
I'm not saying this is why, but its a theory.