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Originally Posted by GGG
So do you think the government wants to reveal the existence of extraterrestrial life or are they fighting against it still.
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Fighting against it still. The announcement of extraterrestrial life would have broad implications on its own. Admission they have been visiting us and intruding in our most protected airspace without effective response would have other significant implications they are likely ill prepared to deal with.
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These commissions now should have enough authority to see the evidence if it exists right? And this investigation existing would make Biden likely seek out a review of the current evidence.
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I think this is a failure in understanding how government works, especially the US government. There are sections of the government that use compartmentalization to prevent access to information, even for congress. The job of congress to put law into place, approve budgets, and have oversight. With compartmentalization you can isolate those functions from oversight. Black budget programs operate with almost no oversight other than generalized discussion of broad budgetary details. Plus, funding can be moved around from department to department for secret programs. DARPA runs a budget but also gets money from the military and the intelligence communities. Department of Energy receives some dark money for the nuclear weapons program. It is a shell game to conceal where the money is being spent and the details of these programs. This extends to congress and the president. I recall Clinton talking about asking for details on this subject and he was told it was above his pay grade and need to know. Secrets are kept by keeping them out of the hands of those who may disclose such information.
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So is it a reasonable assumption that at least the president knows the quality of evidence that currently exists? Is it reasonable to assume that some senators would have clearance to obtain the information that exists. I think that those are probably reasonable to assume but not sure.
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No, that would be unreasonable. The president is not briefed on many aspects of government, especially secret programs. They remain secret because no one person knows all the details specific to a program. The shielding of information is based on the principle of least privilege and has proven effective for decades.
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So then the question is does the committee right now hearing these whistleblowers actually want to release information or is it part of the coverup or doesn’t have the information?
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They don't have access to the information. It is not within their purview to have access to such information. They are kept at arms length as their concern is budgetary and not in actual operational control.
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If the current testimonies are true then there exist materials and bodies which would be easy to produce evidence from that they are not of Earth origin. And it would be easy to allow specimens to be studied by third parties. It also would suggest that the government knows what the UAPs are. Something that they currently deny.
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What makes you think there are not third parties already involved? I can guarantee you there are third parties involved and they are just as compartmentalized as other divisions within these programs. The government works with third parties on these black programs and they have just enough access to get their job done. Don't ask questions, don't talk about what you do, and don't try to reach out to other divisions for other information. Work under the scope given to you. It's how secret technologies are developed.
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So I get stuck with what the purpose of these committees are. If the goal is to release information then that should occur and to some degree has as the videos are officially released If the goal is to provide a cover up they don’t seem to be doing a good job of it. If the goal is to ensure that the investigation into these UAPs have proper oversite then that would make sense if they didn’t have an explanation of ships and bodies in the basement.
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As explained, budget. That is the job of congress.
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So what’s the motivation here by government in each of the scenarios of
US has had bodies and materials for a long time
US knows what the UAPs are and it’s alien tech
US doesn’t know what the UAPs are
US knows what the UAPs are but it’s US tech
I find it unlikely for the current committee set up to be what is happening if the materials and bodies exist. It seems like you would try to cover up more or disclose more as opposed to the current process. But I’m also coming from the roll the body out on the 6 o’clock news threshold of evidence.
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The motivation is control. The motivation is keep the money flowing. The motivation is to keep order as they see fit. Congress doesn't care about the details, they only care about power. If the whole house of cards would come tumbling down with a release the military/government can't protect us, then why would people keep paying into a system that can't do the job? Where would these people find access to the power they have? The system would fall apart with a complete and total collapse of public confidence.
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Originally Posted by puckedoff
US wants other nations to believe or suspect that they do have alien tech.
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Other nations also have similar access to such tech. The US is not the only country to have purported crash sites. This goes back for decades, all the way to the Nazis in WWII. They were supposed to be the first to try and reverse engineer advanced tech. They had some of their best scientists working on it. Oh, and where did those scientists end up after WWWII? The US and Russia.