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Old 06-25-2023, 10:40 PM   #11732
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Valerii Shershen is who reported it...who do you think he speaks for?

bbc.com/news/world-europe-65873831

It's use is also extremely recent and not validated. And considering how slow western media was to report on a historical event like a mutiny / coup against Moscow, surely the slowness of reporting on this should not be a surprise?

Your current incessant push to discredit any and all statements you don't agree with, even when they come from sound sources that have been used by western media on many occasions prior and are even spokeperson (in the case of Shershen), seems rather peculiar for you.
I don't want to gum this thread up with arguing, but my point is that we're consuming news in the social media age and it's incumbent on everyone to call out irresponsible "news" when we see it. I'm not pushing to "discredit any and all statements I don't agree with". I'm calling out misinformation. We all should

As for the chemical weapons headline, the quote from Shershen did not really support the headline. It was "We recorded the fact of dropping a prohibited chemical munition with an aerosol-suffocating effect on one of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The wind was [blowing] toward the enemy"


That's it. No other information. And only that one quote found in one outlet with all other references lining back to that one story from one outlet. No one serious is talking about it. Zelensky is going to be quiet about Russia using chemical weapons? I doubt it. Could it be? Sure. But there's a lot more clicks to be generated by scaring everyone into clicking than by not making scary headlines.



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So where is it?

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map...a-voronezh-45/

Borisoglebsk national-level nuclear weapons storage facility

51°21'47"N 41°55'38"E

It's all the same place. Where do you suggest it is?



Vladimir Osechkin

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimi...ttempt-france/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62465043

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows...dimir-osechkin

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/25/europ...cmd/index.html

That Vladimir Osechkin is the one you are calling completely full of poop. You must think BBC, France24, CNN and CBS are all poop too for giving him interviews?
You know "virtual globe trotting" just uses google maps, right? The base may be there, but the storage location isn't right there. A few posts up I shared the tweet from Pavel Podvig (a Russian nuclear weapons expert) that says that particular location isn't the nuclear storage facility

Here's people who actually know how this works and don't need to Google it or make money by selling Twitter subscriptions or phoney non profits. There's not a need to scare people into thinking a madman stole nukes

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673060818013782026
https://twitter.com/user/status/1673097550679646210
https://twitter.com/user/status/1672979533937475585
https://twitter.com/user/status/1672788210064191488

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