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Originally Posted by Muta
Who here is making ‘absolute conclusions without evidence’?
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Lanny. When GGG asked for evidence and you responded telling him asking for evidence that doesn’t exist was unreasonable, he was asking Lanny to provide evidence for a conclusion he’d made without it. Why is that unreasonable?
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
If there's any thread where people can opine, speculate and hypothesize, this is thread. It's on UAP, what do people expect to happen here? Citizen-driven scientific process? Committing vast amounts of time to deep-dive the classified archives of government intelligence just to post here with vast analysis and primary evidence?
I fear every time this thread gets bumped, because almost immediately there are posters who just come in to be contrarians and obstructionists. They just load on the "where's the evidence? Your argument is no good if there's no evidence" and there just no pleasing that crowd.
Those of us interested in the topic get that there are nuts and bolts people who won't believe anything on this topic until an alien is trotted out on a podium in front of the world. For the rest of us, there is a far more nuanced approach and understanding of the disclosure process that requires patience, pressure (e.g. public congressional hearings), and a bit of pragmatism.
It also sucks that some of them are usually flippant, dismissive, and mocking in their tones and make personal attacks (even if they think they're not doing it).
If you plan to obstruct or just want to come in her and #### on ideas and other people personally, then create your own thread on skepticism and the perils of idealism in a scientific world.
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I think people expect skepticism and alternative theories to be welcomed. I think people expect scientific approaches to the topic to be welcomed, and possible earth or human-centric theories to be welcomed.
I also think people don’t expect the person complaining about being flippant, dismissive, and mocking in tone to be the same person who distills their opinions down to requiring aliens trotted out on a podium, or mocks their intelligence, or tells them he’s going to go get the popcorn as he demands they meet his expectations for conversation, or suggests they aren’t as nuanced or pragmatic as he is, or otherwise has no problem doing all the things he complains about.
If this thread is for everyone, it’s for everyone. You don’t decide who it’s for. If you want to have a conversation where some people aren’t welcome, DM people privately. Go nuts.
Until then, I think we’ll all continue enjoy this thread in our own way, and if you aren’t enjoying it, don’t click on it.