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Old 06-20-2023, 10:43 AM   #751
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
The Flyers also ate 7.65 mil of cap for 1 year and 5 mil for two. Recent trades have shown that eating 6.5+ mil cap for a single season is worth a late 1st in itself.

So the value of Provorov himself was considerably lower than a 1st and 2 2nds.

The Athletic article was based on discussions with several other NHL correspondents. Which is more likely?

A) Hanifin is worth less than a lot of Flames fans think.

B) Several correspondents in different NHL cities all have a hate-on for the Flames. For reasons.

The offers seem a bit low, but I expect they’re closer to the actual return than a lot of fan proposals being bandied around.
Based on those offers I would say it is much more likely that B is the case.

I am far from what anyone here would consider someone who will overrate our player but for the most parts those deals aren't bad they are god awful.

Duclair for Hanifin?? There is no justification for the deal. There is not a single thing anyone could argue that makes that deal make sense.

Dallas- Miller is a 30 year old bottom pairing defenseman that has no value for the Flames, a 4th? meh so that leaves Christian Kyrou who is a 2nd round pick that hasn't jumped up in terms of development. How does that deal make any sense?

Pittsburgh 14 for 16 is a wash which leaves 3 very mediocre players one that seems to be a cap dump in Granlund. How does that make any sense?

Those deals are horrible not close to even making sense from a team building or value sense at all. Those are the deals that fans make when they want to get rid of their junk to get a top player. Outside of Krebs there isn't a single player any of those teams or fans would care about losing to get a guy that is at worst a 26 year old top 4 defenseman and potentially a quality #2.
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