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Originally Posted by Spurs
Overly negative? What has this team down in the past 10 years to be overly optimistic? I am making my points based on what the players have shown through out their careers, what our team has shown in recent years.
Hubredeau was not a 115 point player for 4 seasons before coming here. I said he would return back to the player he was outside of that season. I don't see a good fit with linemates here so I don't think he will reach the 90 point totals he put up in Florida.
Kadri last year was what he was his whole career outside of one season at Colorado. Not sure why expecting him to be at the level he was his whole season bar one is being negative about him?
Kylington ok-ish yes. He is a 4/5 defefenseman that can contribute offensively with major issues defensively. Not sure what is so negative about not rating him as a top pairing guy.
I agree with Mangiapane so what is the issue there? How am I overly negative for agreeing with your view?
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What does the franchise performance have to do with assessing individual players on an annual basis?
Huberdeau was not a 70-80 point player the 4 seasons prior either. That's fine you don't think he'll ever perform like he did in Florida because he apparently doesn't have linemates of 40-point Sam Bennett quality on the Flames.
Kadri was the best player on the Flames for 3 months to start the year. You're pretending like he is incapable of playing like that when he literally has played for this team at a high-level, but sure he'll never be able to replicate that level of play again.
There are 64 top-pair defenseman in the league. Kylington was 56th in scoring. He was top 50 in advanced defnesive metrics (source - Moneypuck)). But facts don't matter, you say he's ok-ish and 4/5 defenseman so I guess let's ignore actual statistics.
OP claimed Mangiapane was due for redemption based on underperformance last year, you said he is what he is which I take to mean that he will continue to "underperform". I said he didn't underperform and doesn't need redemption. Big difference.
You failed to address Markstrom who played at a redeemed level to close out the season and why he'll never play at that level again.
And it's overly negative when you combine all the above to be the stance of a single poster, not a positive thought shared. Not thinking a single player that underperformed this year will see any improvement is overtly negative IMO.