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Old 05-31-2023, 01:59 PM   #6766
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I know you have several issues with PP, but maybe your bias is also contributing to not see his platform for optimism, workers, and families. You don't like his messaging, or maybe his tact, but it appears to me those core values are his main message. He is constantly speaking about what he believes to be issues with the housing market, both foreign and domestic. I am sure, I have my bias's contribute to how I perceive the liberal government, and I will admit that. When, as in the past, the conservatives win the popular vote it kinda does mean that the majority of Canadians are OK with their political path.
If you want to go back, you’d see I also liked PP for leadership years ago. You’re right in part that the Conservative party has some good policies, some of which are pretty much indistinguishable from Liberal policies tbh. They both also have policies I don’t really care for and trend too much towards things that make the rich richer (whether they be their friends or their donors).

What I don’t like, what I didn’t like about O’Toole when he was the leader, and what I’ve come to dislike about PP as a leader, is the pandering to the far right and populist rhetoric. I don’t feel like it is in the Canadian spirit or in line with the average Canadian, for one, and we have countless cases around the world of language that centres around fighting “the woke agenda” (for example) to be a precursor to policies and actions that are purposefully harmful to people (like those in the LGBTQ community). So, frankly, I don’t trust PP. All I can hope is that his policies are sound and the talk is just talk.

But that’s why I liked O’Toole’s messaging on the way out. He identified the problem the Conservative party has in the minds of a lot of Canadians and said the party needed to become a welcoming one of optimism. That isn’t the message PP is sending. “The woke agenda,” as synonymous it is with absurd pandering by itself, is also synonymous with real gains in equal rights, social justice, and climate action. That’s important to me. I’d be happy with a Conservative government that says “hey, we think it’s good enough but are willing to listen.” When we have a Conservative government that says they want to actively fight against it, it is not encouraging.

And to be clear, none of this is to take away from Chinese interference or the briefing O’Toole had. It’s just a defence of the conclusion O’Toole came to, and one I think he would have come to regardless of if he had one or lost. Is PP going to come to the same? Man, I hope so.
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