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					Originally Posted by  fotze2
					 
				 
				As an engineer I want to say thanks for the acknowledgement. Also as an engineer, are you on drugs? Haha 
			
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Maybe, but talking to people with engineering backgrounds who have tried  to facilitate innovation in the health system it sounds like it's a mess. The leaders they dealt with were more academic in nature and more interested in writing papers than implementing change. 
Engineers are more about getting results. And I'm not talking about the McKinseys of the world, I'm talking about actual humans.