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Old 05-10-2023, 07:54 AM   #14785
Lanny_McDonald
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Originally Posted by kermitology View Post
I never said trade him for draft picks. I said trade him for 22-26 year old players.
Oh, well that's different!

You're not getting multiple established players or players on the cusp for one year of Elias Lindholm. If that is your expectation you're going to be sorely disappointed. You might get someone to bite on draft picks, but to give up even one quality player for Lindholm without some certainty of what he's doing is unlikely. I also don't see how it moves the Flames forward in anyway. Using the Flames roster as an example, you'd be talking players like Ruzicka (23), Dube (24), Hanifin (26), Andersson (26), Gilbert (26), and Vladar (25).

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Originally Posted by Hackey View Post
What vets are you trading in 4-5 years? I love how you think a 28 year old Lindholm making under $5 million is bringing back nothing yet somehow a 37 year old Kadri, 34 year old Huberdeau, 39 year old Backlund, 36 year old Coleman, 34 year old Weegar, 38 year old Markstrom, this is going to start the rebuild lol.
You're going to get diminishing returns on those older players, no doubt. But now is not the time to start selling off assets and start a rebuild. Not unless you want to experience something worse than the young guns era. Treliving handcuffed us with his wheeling and dealing and we have to wait for those deals to be wash clean from the books to get serious about this. Worse, the last two draft classes are going to leave a huge hole in the system.

It's no secret that the majority of NHL players come from the 1st and 2nd round. You can extend that to the first 100 picks of any draft. That is where you will make hay and how you rebuild. Four or five draft classes in a row of as many picks you can get in the first 100 players, then another four or five years before you start to see benefit. The Flames are still bleeding picks in that band thanks to Treliving's asset management. We won't be out of those woods until the 2026 draft. so yeah, start dumping players right now when we have nothing to back fill them with, for marginal returns, and we can watch our team suffer and make other teams who own our best picks happy as they gain benefit from our misery.
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