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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No offence, but I don't think just repeating the arguments I already diluted in the post you quoted is really moving the needle. Did you do it on purpose? Because it's kind of funny if so. And the math exercise was definitely icing on the cake, let me know how it goes when you get hired to go around to a bunch of children and infants in Grand Prairie or Medicine Hat and tell them to give you $5 to pay their yearly share of the arena lol.
We get it, though, unquantifiable economic benefits, the money is already earmarked, we won't even notice it, etc etc. It's been said. We understand. We just need to trust that the answers are in the ether or something.
Why can't people be straight about it? Why all the cover of darkness for what could easily be said as "I just want it and don't actually care about the economic side of things." I'm still going to enjoy the new arena, but man... it's not lost on me that this money could be far, far better spent. Do you really need to pretend that's not true to be excited by it? Why?
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It would be quite inefficient to send an individual to collect 5 dollars from every person in the province. That is absurd
It’s not in the ether. Infrastructure is infrastructure. It’s budgeted, it’s being allocated. They said no incremental tax dollars during the presser.
I never said there should be no detailed disclosure, I agree there should be
And never said the money couldn’t be better spent. For a lot of people, sure it can. So what. That applies to every dollar spent everywhere
I don’t trust Smith, the UCP and any business dealing they have as far as I can throw them either
But I also don’t hold the view that electing not to build an arena with 100 million a year contribution from the provincial government out of a 23 billion capital budget will magically translate directly to reversing the ####ty things the UCP want to do in terms of education, privatizing health care, etc.
This is simply not a large sum of money when evaluated with respect to budgets, population, timeline, etc.
Nobody is ever going to gift wrap a full guaranteed investment plan with full ROI for you. You know that.
But you can figure out what some of those numbers are if you want. It’s easy. Assume a percent of the investment going to labour, assume a nominal tax rate, there is a line item for you.
What do you think they can do better? Consult with Qatar about how they managed to quickly and efficiently build so many stadiums?