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Originally Posted by blankall
Luke vs rey is a really bad example. Luke started out as a whiny child who stood no chance against Vader. Vader cut his hand off for sport. Meanwhile rey owns Ren, after barely holding a light saber. No getting frustrated moving rocks in swamps, just maiming the most powerful and well trained force user in the universe for kicks.
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People point to that aspect of the magic powers miss a few things
1) Ren was shot with the bow caster which was specifically shown to destroy people. Then Finn fights Rae for a long time and Ren had just killed his father so was generally in less control. But I agree she gained her powers very quickly.
But in the second movie even after training with Luke she is easily defeated by Snoke and only saved by Ren which is very similar to empire where Luke is defeasted
2) It ignores the Mary Sue part of Luke which is flying an X-wing and destroying a Death Star and leading a commando mission in an space station to rescue a high value captive. In Luke’s case he has no skills to justify there abilities. Whereas Rae as repaired and acavamfed ships living on her own in the desert for leave whose much harder life and therefore is much more likely to be able to fight.
So the key here is that I’m not arguing Rey doesn’t magical get powers without effort, it’s that Luke out performs his levels specifically when blowing up the Death Star and raiding the Death Star and this is just ignored when complaining about Rey. It’s both or Neither.