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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I'll tell you what's "Mad Max"- letting civilians get stabbed on public transportation or harassed by vagrants. That's what's "Mad Max".

The bolded part is the key part of the solution that we aren't doing. Do this, and watch things get better.

Again- Portugal model. That's basically what they did (somewhat differentiated in that they "de-criminalized" such acts), but ultimately the end result is quasi-similar and a step change improvement to the present. Detention, detox- then treatment. Not what we do, which is (short) detention, release, no detox, and rinse repeat.

Like, no, force treatment- AFTER detox... if this means they are in a prison or a house or a whatever the ####- that part is less important to me than the detox and treatment part, but still part of the solution. You have to have some kind of detention system. People on these drugs are not thinking rationally. You're not even talking to the person themself that is addicted to the substance, you're basically just talking to the substance / addiction. Have you ever talked to addicts? That's what it's like. Then when they sober up, whaddya know, rational minds emerge.

100% in agreement. Great post!