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Old 04-04-2023, 06:46 PM   #42
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Good in a sense of narrative and storytelling but not good in the sense of let's play a game where the character I play gets his brain smashed by a golf club and then a pregnant side character and unborn child is murdered by the consequences of my actions.

What I really wanted them to deliver was something with more gravitas and intellect and positive impact on the world that they built - maybe more about different factions and systems working on dealing with the infected and fungal calamity as the enemy - not two young-adult women leaving a bloody trail of death and destruction with you at the controls.

All the world building of the super-interesting premise just became a non-descript background to the story of interpersonal vengeance. I think Druckmann's ego was boosted to ridiculous heights from the positive reception to the moral dilemma ending of Joel & the doctors. He then completely forgot that the main positive thing about the first game was the proper adventure with world-building and the feel-good father/daughter relationship of the main characters.

His ego took the moral dilemma from the first game and built an entire second game out of squeezing even more agony and depressing drivel out of moral dilemmas and completely forgot adventure and feel-good.

The Drukmann hate campaign honestly makes me really uncomfortable, as the main driver of that charge is an incel group that had very clear anti-semitism message it's core. I'm not saying that as an attack to you, but in general when Neil gets brought up in this sort of context it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. So I think just, maybe be more mindful of that in the larger context of the discourse around the game. There were a lot of people who worked on this game, including Halley Gross who co-created the story.

People can be upset that it wasn't the story they want, and I think that's really fair. I don't have any criticism on that, as that's personal taste. But I think it's really difficult to deny that what we got was very well done.
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