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Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium
You can make that argument against any modern tank.
No, they are not all they have. Russia produces in the neighborhood of 800 tanks annually. There hasn't been any degradation in their tank manufacturing. How many tanks does NATO produce annually?
What's fascinating is how fired up this community got over a no context video posted by a pro-Ukrainian Twitter account. Why do people here take such posts as gospel?
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Really? You are going to accuse people of using fantasy numbers while quoting Russian fantasy numbers? The Soviet Union, let alone Russia without all the satellite states, hasn't been producing tanks at that rate since the cold war. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you regularly posted stuff straight off Russian sources/maps. By most reports, including Russian newspapers right before Putin's press purge, UralVagonZavod is the only tank factory operational at this point and they are down to a single production line and refurb line. The production line's capacity is quoted as 20/month and they've had to "pause" plans for a second line because they haven't been able to find the tooling/resources post sanction or people to do so. Refurb line is 17/mo there and there are plans build 2 more refurb lines in the "coming months". Meanwhile Russia has lost 150+ tanks/mo just on visually verified OSINT data.
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/202...ren-barrels-en
https://www.economist.com./the-econo...its-tank-fleet
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=788f338c2061
Ukraine is not losing tanks, let alone Western ones, at anywhere near that rate either. Krauss-Maffei Wegmann has stated they can can currently do 50 tanks/year and can refurb 60-70/year and they are not crippled on critical components, lack of manpower from conscription, or sanctions on critical western tech which the most modern Russian armor used extensively. i.e. all the last generation off the shelf French thermals on even the latest T-14s. Spain and Sweden have both produced Leopards domestically under license in the past, and could restart that. Abrams production is at 11 tanks per month at the Lima Army Tank plant at low rate production but can ramp up. But do the Americans even need to build more when they have an insane 3500 M1A1/A2 in mothball storage?
https://warisboring.com/germanys-leo...rt%20it%20here.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...702-story.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/24...tudies%20(IISS).