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I am and still pro Sutter for what he has done and the career he has, but he is dunzo. I could be wrong and the players we have assembled are just rotten folks...but unfortunately we have hitched our wagon to them...and that wagon cannot be unhitched for a (way too) long time.

I know a guy who played for Sutter, respects his brain but he is a massively sarcastic person who is very intelligent so what he says is deeply cutting. We don't even know the back story of what small comments come out. Rhetter (another player who is his prototypical player and thrived under him) just loves him, he stays at Sutter's place at his kids hockey tournies in Viking. If he is talking ####, there is smoke.

Why is this work place any different from anywhere else? Add three zeros to everyone's salary and it is the same, except everyone has massive mobility options and value, top of their profession, so you have choices, unlike you or I, even if you signed a contract.

Your whole life, you have been the best and told as such (Sutter included). If anyone looks like they hsve quit or are mailing it in, it looks like Sutter.

But I think the players, coach of the day, Treliving is just hand wringing. Its the owner. He absolutely takes pride for never laying anyone off. Which sounds pretty altruistic. They make you so miserable that you quit. That's how he runs his business. He is ruthless and petty. You invest in Murray Edwards, you do not work for him, unless you are a mindless soldier.

Works great for an Oil company where employees are paid orders of magnitude less than their boss, but not in the NHL apparently.