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Old 03-20-2023, 01:43 PM   #551
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Originally Posted by Bonded View Post
That is the whole issue though. There is a very active portion of people using religion as a reason to shut down LGTBQ+ events. You can't lean on religion as personal thing when it is being used a tool to actively discriminate. Reimer refusing to participate by wearing a jersey gives broad support that it is okay to discriminate as long as he isn't out there protesting at a drag story time.


If you are longing for the days where marrying children is a-ok then West Virginia is the place for you. Child marriage fell out of favour because people realized it was wrong. Kind of like oppressing people for who they love.

Great, and it goes back to my argument of what is the right moral standard/framework? What you have adopted in your own life? Because you set the bar in different places, and I bet it's changed over the course of your life. So are we always supposed to expect everyone to accept your moral framework as one everyone should support?

But if that framework comes from a religious/spiritual foundation, then you have a huge issue with it. Whether from the belief in supreme being or one that you have recognized as your "source of truth", what you deem as "wrong" may not hold in the views of others.

Many Christians, Muslims, etc... believe fornication is wrong. Or gambling is wrong. You could argue there's actually a sound argument for those in terms of why going against those standards can cause many societal problems. But, they are supposed to follow and support your standards, without any expectation of reciprocity.

The irony of saying "people realized it was wrong" when that is again based on your moving standard. So you are asking everyone to adopt and actively support where you have agreed to move the goal posts, but if a Christian asks you to actively support a cause they follow, that's religious oppression?
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