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Old 03-14-2023, 03:17 PM   #5246
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Would it? You have two choices as a political party - be adaptable so you can win elections or be ideological, stick to your values and lose the vast majority of elections.

The Liberals will adapt to whatever is popular at the time. They've been debt hawks, spending machines, nationalists, deregulators at various times in their history. They swing as society's values changes.

The (federal) NDP and Green party are ideological - winning an election isn't really the goal. They just want to push their values and influence on Canada's government. The NDP could possibly win a razor thin minority if absolutely everything went their way but its very unlikely.

The Conservatives were for most of their existence similar to the Liberals just on the right side of the spectrum. But they are slipping to the ideological party the more they embrace that side.

I suspect - yes - the current Conservative party support would split and perhaps the PPC becomes an NDP lite that wins the odd rural seat. But the Conservatives could pick up a ton of voters who are sick of the Liberals but aren't willing to vote for a party that supports their fringe.
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I'm far from an expert - but wasn't Hong Kong very different? UK gave it back to China. It was China's territory - they just sped up taking control on the one country, two systems set-up.

Taiwan and China had a war and Taiwan ended up on the island. Will be a huge undertaking for China to 'win' over Taiwan using soft power given all the back ground.
Sure, they are different. But China used a strategy of slowly widdling away at the rights Hong Kong had as part of "One China, two Systems", and will continue to do so until it is "One China, One System". They know how to do this slowly, and will do the same with Taiwan. Well, that's how I see it, anyway. Open war isn't really a benefit to them.
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