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Old 03-14-2023, 11:54 AM   #1272
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I think the point is that the show didn't do a very good job of depicting Joel's intentions.

He just came across as a total psycho in that last episode. There were multiple points where he killed defenceless guards who were already surrendering and disabled. There was no internal debate about what was wrong/right.

And again, that talk he had with Ellie about her reminding him of his daughter was extremely creepy.

None of this may have been the creators intent, but they added to the source material to push the envelopes and it backfired and instead took the punch out of the storyline. What made the original story good wasn't a cool shoot out scene filled with violence, it was the moral debate.

Still a great show overall, they must missed the mark a bit with the ending.

Well yeah, that’s the point. He’s taking out guards that have already surrendered because he’s not taking any chances of not getting to Ellie. Same reason why he takes out Marlene. “You’ll just come after her”.

He’s not supposed to be having an internal debate. His mind was made up the moment Marlene told him Ellie would die. I’m not sure what you’re referencing from the game because both the show and the game have almost the exact same ending.

Joel disassociates from himself and becomes hyper violent out of his love for Ellie.
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